October 9, 1986…’The Late Show With Joan Rivers’ Debuts On Fox
October 9, 1986…’The Late Show With Joan Rivers’ Debuts On Fox
Here is the rare video of that first show with David Lee Roth, Pee Wee Herman, Elton John and Cher. In the story, some surprises I had never known about till now. Read on!
We all know that the Fox announcement of the show caught Johnny Carson by surprise and caused him never to speak with Joan again, BUT…as you will see, Rivers had some pretty good reasons for playing her cards close to her chest.
Rivers had been Carson’s permanent guest host since 1983, and as 1986 neared, some executives at NBC thought it was possible that Johnny Carson would retire after reaching his 25th anniversary on October 1, 1987, as it was such a logical cut-off point. In the spring of 1986, a confidential memo went out to top NBC executives listing about 10 possible replacements in the event of Carson’s retirement. Rivers was shocked to see that she was not on the list.
In an article she wrote for People Magazine, Rivers said that NBC offered her only a one year contract in 1985 as permanent guest host while Carson’s contract had been renewed for two years, which signaled to her that her future was uncertain as her previous one year contracts had run the same length as Carson’s. In addition, Rivers noted numerous snubs from NBC executives over the years, such as not being invited to the annual Carson party until recently, and taking the fall for a controversial joke that management approved during rehearsal.
Rivers had received higher-paying offers from other networks in prior years but declined them out of her loyalty to Carson, but in 1986 as NBC was unwilling to give assurances on her future and negotiations were fruitless, this was the impetus for Rivers to seriously consider the Fox offer.
Fox was looking for a host for a late-night talk show for the network’s launch in October 1986 and offered Rivers the job at a salary higher than what NBC was paying. She accepted, and Carson was blindsided by the news when he saw the press conference on television.
Carson was furious and said that he felt betrayed by Rivers – not because she dared to compete with him, but because she was not honest with him beforehand about her intentions and did not ask him for advice and his blessing.
For her part, Rivers was adamant that her problem was with NBC and not with Carson, who was like a father figure to her. She stated that she didn’t want to tell Carson before the announcement was made because she was afraid Fox would cancel the deal if word leaked out. She had previously been ordered by Carson’s producers and lawyers not to go to him with her problems, as they kept Carson completely insulated since he was a major source of NBC profits. Carson had been completely unaware of Rivers’ problems with NBC.
In the next post, we’ll cover the very sad end of this show that proved tragic for Rivers in so many ways. In the video, the guests are Pee Wee Herman, David Lee Roth, Elton John and Cher! Enjoy and please share! -Bobby Ellerbee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MckrtLdSIxs Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHFHuARH0g0 Part 2
Here is the part 1 of the premiere of “The Late Show with Joan Rivers”, as broadcast on October 9, 1986. Joining Joan are guests David Lee Roth, Pee Wee Herm…
I was in satellite ops that night. The show was live to the east coast. During the first shoe, the F word was used. Too late it was on the air. But, we were doing a half hour delay for stations that did a 11 o’clock newscast. We heard running feet and the producer ran in the door. How do we bleep the delay? We were using a Betacart to do the delay, so operator plugged patch cords in for the edit. The next day we had a button box that plugged into the patchbay.
I’d never seen her show, probably because I live in the Boston area. But I’m enjoying it right now!
I watched this in my daughter’s hospital room. She had her tonsils taken out that day. She shares her birthday with Joan
In Boston she was initially on radio. Fox was in the process of buying WXNE from Pat Robertson, who refused to air the show. The solution was to run the audio on WMRE, a station that was 50,000 watts on paper. In reality 40,000 of them went over the Atlantic Ocean and the signal was terrible at that hour. When the sale was finalized in January 1987 she was finally seen on TV.
If she had ignored the lawyers’ and producers’ advice and gone to him instead of him apparently getting blindsided by the news, Carson would have probably supported her……and her show might have lasted longer than it did.