My Amazing Conversation with Kevin Kline, On TV History

My Amazing Conversation with Kevin Kline, On TV History

I was fortunate enough to have a couple of ten minute conversations with Kevin Kline yesterday and of all things, we talked mostly about television history…and you will not believe his connection to a True Pioneer! One that I had never heard of, but wait to you hear this story!

In case you had forgotten, Kevin is married to actress Phoebe Cates, and they are pictured here. Her father was Joseph Cates, and has an incredible history that I had never known about. Till now…

In 1949, Joe Cates was an associate producer on Dumont’s ‘Cavalcade Of Stars’ which was hosted by comedian new to television, named Jackie Gleason. Although ‘The Honeymooners’ was still a couple of years away, Jackie and Joe had been talking about the idea for a while and it was Joe Cates that introduced Gleason to Art Carney, who he thought would be a good actor to play his friend! According to Kevin, ‘The Honeymooners’ set is a duplicate of Joe’s apartment where he and Gleason often met for drinks and plans.

Although he wanted to work with Gleason on ‘The Honeymooners’, Joe was made the producer of two other shows…’Buck Rogers’, and ‘The Sammy Kaye Show’! In 1955, Joe became the executive producer for ‘The $64,000 Question’. This is amazing isn’t it? But, we’re just getting started! Let’s back track to the days before ‘Cavalcade of Stars’

While working in advertising after the war he got the idea of using television to sell candy, and signed a contract with Dumont to do a high-school talent search program he called ‘Look Upon a Star,’ with Bess Myerson, the 1945 Miss America, as host. Operating on a $100 budget, limited to two cameras and facing the unforgiving pace of live television, Mr. Cates managed to pull it off and emerged as one of the most experienced and skilled variety-show production specialists in a fledgling medium.

While working at Dumont with Gleason and Carney on ‘The Cavalcade of Stars’ he also worked on ‘The Cavalcade of Bands,’ which set off a deep interest in music specials as well as comedy which lead him to NBC to produce the ‘Bob and Ray’ show.

His network experience helped lay the groundwork for his later career as an independent producer, which included a succession of specials with Alan King, Robert Klein, Steve Martin and other comedians, and more than 200 circus programs, not to mention a string of David Copperfield magic shows and a number of musical programs for Gene Kelly, Ethel Merman, Victor Borge, Perry Como, Andy Williams, Nat King Cole and others.

By his own estimate, from the live high school talent program he staged for the old Dumont network in the late 1940’s to his string of fund-raising specials for Ford’s Theater in Washington, Mr. Cates wrote, directed and produced more than 1,000 television productions.

Joseph Cates, was born Joseph Katz, but interestingly, this native New Yorker was infatuated with country music and did dozens of country music specials produced with the help of his friend, Johnny Cash. Those shows, which used sophisticated lighting and other softening techniques, were credited with making country music safe for a mass medium, and the country music industry was so grateful that Mr. Cates became the only producer honored by the Country Music Hall of Fame.

I am very thankful that Kevin Kline took the time to tell me about the incredible history of his father-in-law and for being such an easy man to talk with. He is truly charming and has been one of my favorite actors for a long time.  He has been in many more things than we both can think of and here is an amazing list of his pictures.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000177/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

For more on Joseph Cates, take a look here…
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0146068/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

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4 Comments

  1. Penny Wallis February 16, 2013

    LOVE Kevin Kline! Fab story. Nice to know that someone who seems like such a nice guy IS! Thanks James!!!0

  2. Chuck Pharis February 16, 2013

    Great historical story Bobby!!!

  3. Steven Davis February 16, 2013

    Great Story! As I recall, the location for the church scenes in “In & Out” was St John’s in Cold Spring Harbor, NY.

  4. Randy West February 16, 2013

    Fabulous story!